2004 Grand Am wont start HELP!

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carriedi
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Re: 2004 Grand Am wont start HELP!

Unread post by carriedi » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:17 pm

it's not easy to bypass the passlock. but you don't know if it is the passlock or not. you need to see if you have injector pulse when cranking to see if the passlock is shutting off the injectors or not. If you only have 30 psi in the fuel rail, the injectors may not feed enough gas to start your engine. Need at least 50 psi.

you could see if the engine will run on fuel fed manually through the intake system. if it will run on fuel fed manually then the fuel system is what you should concentrate on. Cars are very technical now days. Passlock data is available on the tech2 scanner but many aftermarket scanners don't have the ability to talk to passlock system. If the passlock sensor is unable to read your key your engine will not start. Even if you do a relearn, if it can't see your key it can't do a relearn. the passlock sends 5 volts to the sensor. your key changes that voltage to a lower voltage. The passlock needs to see that lower voltage to know there is a key inserted. If it sees the voltage it has been programmed to see, no problem, it start right up. If the memory has been erased or your key has a different voltage, it will need a relearn to see the new voltage. If one of the wires gets broken (common thing to happen) the passlock will not see any voltage for a key. No voltage means not start and no relearn
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Re: 2004 Grand Am wont start HELP!

Unread post by suzi » Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:55 am

So, if it starts with ether into the intake then its a fuel problem and the fule is putting out less than 50psi..so pump or filter ect messed up correct?. And if it doesnt start after putting ether in then its ignition or passlaock problem? Maybe crank sensor?

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Re: 2004 Grand Am wont start HELP!

Unread post by carriedi » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:34 pm

I would not recommend starting fluid. Use carb cleaner. starting fluid runs too hot if you use too much. Be careful! using a spray accelerant could cause a fire if the engine backfires.

if it starts with your manually added fuel then yes, it could be a fuel pressure problem, fuel regulator problem, plugged up fuel filter, clogged injectors, or no injector pulse. Have you checked power to the injectors? have you checked the injector pulse yet?

If you have spark you have a crank sensor signal.
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Re: 2004 Grand Am wont start HELP!

Unread post by suzi » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:03 am

No and no and how do you check the spark on the crank? I do have carb cleaner lol thats about it.

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Re: 2004 Grand Am wont start HELP!

Unread post by carriedi » Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:02 am

in a previous part you said spark was good. If you have spark to the spark plugs then you have a crank signal because that is what sends the signal to fire the coils.
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Re: 2004 Grand Am wont start HELP!

Unread post by bosslaydee36 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:08 pm

It's normal for the security light to come on for a brief moment when you start it. It's if it blinks, then it's a security issue. Have you changed the coil pack?

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